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| wazza267 | | Set |  |  | | Reg. Date | : | 18/06/2014 | | Posts | : | 54 | | Location | : | New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 07:07 Post title : Boosterplug | | | Has anyone either fitted one of these Boosterplug units to their bike or know anything about their effectiveness? You know what they say about something that sounds too good to be true!
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| easyrider | | Thor | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 17/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 2,066 | | Location | : | NSW, Australia |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 08:21 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: wazza267) | | |
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Has anyone either fitted one of these Boosterplug units to their bike or know anything about their effectiveness? You know what they say about something that sounds too good to be true!
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mate just keep saving for how long u need to and get a supercharger for the Bird.
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| GerPa | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/12/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,919 | | Location | : | Mackay, Central Queensland, Australia |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 08:50 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: wazza267) | | |
wazza267 wrote:
Has anyone either fitted one of these Boosterplug units to their bike or know anything about their effectiveness? You know what they say about something that sounds too good to be true!
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No. but it sound interesting??
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| redhouse64 | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 14/03/2011 | | Posts | : | 56 | | Location | : | Wilen, SZ, Switzerland |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 10:08 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: GerPa) | | | Yes, i know, it's news from the  other side, but still, some of the guys are quite nice and know stuff ...
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In short: just relocate the air temp sensor from the overheated air box to a cooler place by extending the cable a bit and enjoy the same benefits as buying one of their booster plugs ...
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| gwight | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 26/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 761 | | Location | : | Broken Hill, N.S.W., Australia |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 10:35 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: wazza267) | | | I fitted one to mine but need to do some more testing ie. down hill runs trying to make it do the "decel pop", with & without it in circuit. At the moment the popping is neglegable, with the Zards.
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 11:19 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: wazza267) | | | After reading about this Boosterplug ,what it does, is relocate the air temp sensor so it can get a fresher, cooler supply of ambient air flowing over it due to its' extended probe/sensor, instead of being directly above and behind the engine [hot air] plus being restricted by the seat,[which makes the ambient air passing over the factory sensor still warmer] hence a richer mixture when ya want it to lean out.
Rule of thumb: The cooler the ambient air is,the leaner the mixture.Hence the warmer the ambient air is,the richer the mixture. The Boosterplug will allegedly,give ya cooler air flowing over that extended probe attached to it, due to its' location in the cooler air,hence leaning out the mixture somewhat during the hot weather and visa versa for the cold weather.This information then goes from the sensor and to the ECM via voltage using a parameter of 0-5.000 volts which then leans or richens the mixture accordingly by controlling the pulse width of the injectors. But now that I think about it again,if it got really cold,it could lean it out too much which could create other problems.So now I'm not so sure if it's such a good idea or not,unless you don't drive the machine in the real cold weather.I do.
But to clarify it even better,if ya drive your bike in the cold weather,you'll note it has more umph then in the warmer/hotter weather.The colder the air temp is,the stronger the motor runs ,while the warmer the air temp is,the logier it runs.And that's due to the difference in the ambient air temperature.And this is most noticeable on older carbureted machines without all the electronics and fuel injection.
If you could relocate the stock air temp sensor [you'd need to lengthen the wires and do a few other things]to position it where it could get a better supply of fresh cooler air,or basically the same thing as this "BOOSTERPLUG" is doing. But using the Boosterplug, makes this job easier to do. Dave!!!
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| gwight | | Chaac | | | | Reg. Date | : | 26/04/2011 | | Posts | : | 761 | | Location | : | Broken Hill, N.S.W., Australia |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 11:58 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: davetac1) | | | Better go back & have another read of "how it works" Dave, old mate !
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| davetac1 | | Thunderbird | | | Reg. Date | : | 06/09/2010 | | Posts | : | 8,379 | | Location | : | Haverhill, Ma., United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 12:02 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: gwight) | | | I reread my post again,thought about it, and made still a couple more changes.I know what I'm tryin to say,I just don't always know how to say it correctly.  Most embarrassing!!! DUH!! But I think I explained it right this time! Remember!!! I'm NOT VERY BRIGHT!!! Double DUH!!! Dave!!!
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| NAH | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 02/10/2014 | | Posts | : | 195 | | Location | : | Paso Robles, California, United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 17:20 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: wazza267) | | | 
Or you could do this.
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| daz | | Zeus | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 19:08 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: redhouse64) | | | But if you are already running a rich custom map with sensors removed, and yes i know they aren't wideband, but will that thing still do it's magic? Maybe thats what is keeping my rich map from fouling the plugs and maybe this is would not be good. So many thoughts and questions and so little true understanding of how this stuff works. But i often have wondered about relocating the temp sensor. Always wondered how much of the improved performance i feel on cold mornings is due to cold air being dense of the temp sensor.
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| literider | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 31/01/2013 | | Posts | : | 7 | | Location | : | Adelaide, South Aust, Australia |
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| | Posted : 27 Mar 2015 - 21:26 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: daz) | | | The air temp sensor reduces resistance as it warms up, you could add some series resistance to it to simulate cooler temps. eg 1000k ohms.
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| wazza267 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/06/2014 | | Posts | : | 54 | | Location | : | New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 28 Mar 2015 - 08:49 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: literider) | | | There are some good answers there guys, thanks for taking the time to respond in such detail. Nothing I have heard from anyone so far is particularly negative about the Boosterplug, but from what you are telling me it seems that I could possibly get similar performance results by simply moving the temp sensor. But I'm not sure if that alone would be enough to help the hyperactive 'popping' I get on over run, as well as between up shifts or the driveline snatch at low speeds - heavy traffic. All of which the manufacturers of Boosterplug claim to improve.
With the Boosterplug they not only relocate the temp sensor but add resistance to the temp sensor reading as well.
I have to admit, I do like the 'plug and play' aspects of this thing as an alternative to something like a Power Commander, which I have heard of a lot of people having trouble, after fitting it, in getting their bike running right because of the (too?) many adjustments and maps and it all seems all too complicated, not to mention expensive.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 29 Mar 2015 - 02:41 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: wazza267) | | | Search here. I think Buford gave it a go. Got his balls busted for trying falling for the hype, and pretty much reported that it seemed more placebo effect than real gains. If i find the thread, I'll post the link.
EDIT - no updates other than the initial trial. Seems to have helped with popping, but many feel proper tuning will help as well. The "jury is still out" it seems.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 31 Mar 2015 - 14:11 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: NAH) | | | NAH - when are we gonna see your writeup!?!?! Inquiring minds want to know what you did!
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| wazza267 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/06/2014 | | Posts | : | 54 | | Location | : | New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 31 Mar 2015 - 23:56 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: bnz433) | | | Watch this space Jamie.
I've just ordered it, as soon as I get it on and had a chance to take her for a couple of runs I let y'all know 
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| NAH | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 02/10/2014 | | Posts | : | 195 | | Location | : | Paso Robles, California, United States |
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| | Posted : 01 Apr 2015 - 00:36 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: bnz433) | | | Jamie, been busy at work and road testing the beast.
Still have not had a chance to Dyno.
As you know I managed to squeeze another 100cc out of the lump and it was worth it. Will try and get my figures together this weekend and put it in a post.
Thank you for the interest.
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| tr1050 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 03/09/2014 | | Posts | : | 29 | | Location | : | Adelaide, S.A., Australia |
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| | Posted : 04 Apr 2015 - 02:30 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: wazza267) | | | What the booster plug does it is a different resistance to the standard air temp sensor so it gives a false temperature reading to the ecu so the ecu then gives more fuel to the engine .
It works on the fact that all standard factory maps are lean for emissions reasons so it will give a false resistance reading to the ecu which means that the ecu thinks the temperature is lower which means the air is denser so the engine the needs more fuel hence a slightly richer fuel mixture resulting in slightly more power and sometimes smoother throttle response
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| edbob | | Chaac | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 04/04/2012 | | Posts | : | 931 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Apr 2015 - 03:02 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: NAH) | | |
NAH wrote:
As you know I managed to squeeze another 100cc out of the lump and it was worth it. Will try and get my figures together this weekend and put it in a post.
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Wait, What?
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| daz | | Zeus | | | | Reg. Date | : | 12/05/2009 | | Posts | : | 7,686 | | Location | : | United States |
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| | Posted : 04 Apr 2015 - 04:18 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: tr1050) | | |
tr1050 wrote:
What the booster plug does it is a different resistance to the standard air temp sensor so it gives a false temperature reading to the ecu so the ecu then gives more fuel to the engine .
It works on the fact that all standard factory maps are lean for emissions reasons so it will give a false resistance reading to the ecu which means that the ecu thinks the temperature is lower which means the air is denser so the engine the needs more fuel hence a slightly richer fuel mixture resulting in slightly more power and sometimes shooter throttle response |
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Thats why i said i thought it might do no good for those with custom tunes and no sensors that are already as rich as you'd wanna be.
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| bnz433 | | Jupiter | | | | Reg. Date | : | 10/06/2011 | | Posts | : | 1,842 | | Location | : | Clifton Park (Upstate), NY, United States |
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| | Posted : 05 Apr 2015 - 01:14 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: edbob) | | | Yup...i found out about it on Facebook. So started bugging him to get posting here on his project!! Can't wait to see!!!
Jamie
PS - you getting sorted for Bennington this time???
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| esem | | Set | |  | | Reg. Date | : | 21/04/2014 | | Posts | : | 92 | | Location | : | West Aus, Australia |
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| | Posted : 05 Apr 2015 - 13:11 Post title : Re: Boosterplug | | | If you are serious, here is a cheaper one from AU fleabay.
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| wazza267 | | Set | | | | Reg. Date | : | 18/06/2014 | | Posts | : | 54 | | Location | : | New Zealand |
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| | Posted : 11 Apr 2015 - 09:49 Post title : Re: Boosterplug (Re: esem) | | | Well fellas,
I fitted my new Boosterplug a few days ago but couldn't get out to test it out until today.
In my opinion it does actually work, but if you are expecting it to turn your T'bird into a race bike you will be sadly disappointed. However, my bike did seem to be smoother at open road speeds but I didn't feel it added any added performance or power, not that I bought it for or was expecting anything extra in that department anyway.
I really bought it for the low speed, smoother gear changes and reduced backfiring or 'popping' benefits that the manufacturer claimed it gave.
I have thought for sometime now, that I am a bit of a crap low speed, carpark and U turn motorcyclist, and now I realise that some of the instability problems I had doing this type of riding were not actually all my fault. I'm still not great but with the Boosterplug it is now so much easier and - smoother.
Although the Boosterplug is not going to influence the actual changing of the gears, it does make the acceleration out of each gear change a lot more positive and smoother (there's that word again). It's one of those things when you sometimes don't realise just how bad something was until you fix or replace it - like shock absorbers.
The excessive overrun or deceleration backfiring or 'popping' as some call it, that has been plaguing me since I bought the bike, has, I would say, been reduced by about 80%. I don't mind a bit of backfiring at all but she really was very hyperactive in that area, but not anymore, it seems.
So all in all I am very happy with my purchase, it has added to my enjoyment of riding my awesome Thunderbird and I would recommend it to anyone who is looking to cure the issues I was. After all it's only $US150.00 or so, it's not a fortune.
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